DISQUS

Angel · 2 years ago

You gotta do what you gotta do and nobody can tell you otherwise.

I predict this post going for a record number of comments. So come on, what are everyone's thoughts?

Hyder · 2 years ago

Congratulations on a great launch, and an even greater sell. Who are the new owners by the way?

Casey · 2 years ago

Congrats on making a successful site! How much did you get from it?

jerrykhoo · 2 years ago

I'm sure you know I'm not a Cow Basher. :lol:
Just curious to know who the new owners are and how they intend to further promote MEW.

On a separate track, i would understand how difficult it is to run several heavy lifting projects, couple that with commitments on the real life end and this could really go into overload. Hope you finally got the real life part balanced out. :smile:

Angel · 2 years ago

I heard Terry Wogan was the news owner.

PropertyIreland · 2 years ago

Now, thats funny...
was wondering why CashQuests jumped ship...

John Cow · 2 years ago

PropertyIreland: Here's an email we received from CashQuests 2 days ago:
show details
Oct 7 (2 days ago)
Quick question: If I were to sell my MEW page, would the new owner get a free coupon code and could I still keep using mine?

Thanks,
CQ

Before you start your silly little games again, this timing was a pure coincidence.
She actually more than doubled her investment on MEW.

Euro Skeptic · 2 years ago

At the risk of having my comment deleted for being a "basher"... you say you're not in it for the money, but then you turn around and run an auction to squeeze the highest sell price (for the site) out of current page owners. How is this not hypocritical?

Also - hanging onto the domain name so that you can redirect it in case the new owners "do something wrong". How is this different to selling a car but keeping a copy of the key - so that you can repossess if down the track you don't like the new owner's driving?

Not meaning to bash. But this is a blog about making mooney, and transparency in the long run is better financially than this subterfuge.

Scam · 2 years ago

I see Matt Jones of Blogging Fingers is also trying to sell his page again along with CashQuests - does that mean that you are ALL running away and, if so, why?

John Cow · 2 years ago

EuroSkeptic: The auction was to flush out freeloaders. People commit to something they pay for more than something they get for free. Like we said, if we were in it for the money, we would have tried and sell it for a couple of thousand dollars elsewhere. Why "squeeze" out of just 70 people instead of the whole Internet?

As for hanging on to the domain name, that's to make sure the site goes the way it was intended to go, not that it will be flipped shortly. We're confident we'll like the new owners driving as you put it. It's been set in place for the pageowners, not us.

As far as transparency, how more transparent do we need to be? We've showed you all the ins and outs.

John Cow · 2 years ago

Scam: Matt Jones was trying to sell his page since the day he got it. Has nothing to do with MEW now being under new management.

Euro Skeptic · 2 years ago

JC - thanks for a straight-up response, your points are noted.

One of the things about the sale I think people will be uncomfortable with is the perception that MEW has been dumped because the originator has turned a quick profit from the initial surge of interest, and is now letting it go to become someone elses problem, along the way breaking any commitments about how far their 75E would go.

I accept the new owners are keen to make a go of it, and yes you have an ongoing financial interest in seeing MEW do well, but MEW no longer has "the cow" truly behind it.

I don't see an easy solution. You're entitled to your privacy and I don't think it's reasonable to demand the "why" of the personal circumstances which led to the sale. I'm just pointing out this perception can become a serious PR issue longterm for both JC and the new MEW.

John Cow · 2 years ago

Euro Skeptic: As in every change of management, people will be uncomfortable of what things lie ahead.
The fact that there is now a bigger, more experienced team behind MEW means that the site will grow bigger and better.

Like we said, we will keep supporting MEW with a full 100% and this decision shows for it. We could have kept it, spending less time on it and making it mediocre, or recognize what the site needs to flourish and hand it over to someone that can and will commit the time and effort it needs.

You're right, it's not an easy solution, but it's the best one for all that are involved. We truly believe the new owners will take MEW to the next level. Change isn't always bad.

Cash Quests · 2 years ago

In my first post about the Million Euro Wiki I said that it was just launching and that people should cash in on the initial buzz. The next post explained how the affiliate program had just launched and that it was a money maker. Then I explained how to actually monetize the page, send traffic to it and outlined my plan about how I was planning to make a quick profit, flip the page and make an exit.

I have explained step by step and extremely openly about what I was doing - not only that but I also explained how you too could make money in a similar fashion.

PropertyIreland and the other doubters have done nothing but criticize and knock the MEW the whole way. I made several hundred dollars from it and if they had followed my lead instead of spending their time trying to bring MEW down, they may have made some money too.

To accuse me of "jumping ship" and "running away" is insulting to your own intelligence.

It's called "having a plan" - that's how you make money. I did - they didn't. Who you gonna listen to?

Matt Jones · 2 years ago

As johncow said I have planned to sell my page all along. There is no "jumping ship" going on here.

The "Blogging" page is desirable and I knew it was only going to increase in value as the MEW gains backlinks and momentum, the plan has always been to sell it at the right time for me and the advertiser to get a good deal.

Selling it now gives me the benefit of this 'mini-buzz' about a change in ownership, and for the buyer they get the peace of mind that the new team is committed to marketing the MEW.

My B.I.N price is very reasonable given the experience of the new management team.

PropertyIreland · 2 years ago

Cow, I really don't want to get into this nonsense again, but what silly little games did I ever play?
all I ever did was express my own critical opinion on the project and still wished you well with it each time.
if anyone is playing silly little games, i'd say this award would have to go to you, selling out your supporters who bought into this project. If you really still did believe in it, would you really auction off a potential $1,000,000 (your original aim) starting at $100?

CashQuests, I read your blog out of interest, not to follow your every word and treat you like some kind of guru!
Well done for making money on this, i'm still of the opinion that you did jump ship though and you probably annoyed a lot of your readers, just the cost of making you a few $$ i suppose.

The Truth · 2 years ago

@CashQuests
I'd like to correct you on one thing - If you think are making *good* money & you are someone people love to listen to, then its a pity that you YOURSELF ARE INSULTING YOUR OWN INTELLIGENCE. Also, anyone out here who thinks that you are some sort of a guru in making money online are also insulting their own intelligence.

How many times people have bashed you in comments left on johnchow, or for that matter your own blog, for some stupid remarks you make on other people?

If you were *real* big then you wud not have written TONS of crappy paid posts on http://kumikosuzuki.blogspot.com for as low as 5 & 10 dollars. And when you noticed people making fun of you on what you did, you directed the blogspot blog to CashQuests, a couple of days back.

And hey, i make MORE money than you, so its so f***ing stupid to read your tagline on cashquests that says "Better than you at making money online" (no wonder someone must have bashed you AGAIN and you changed the tagline)

You know what?
Fact Number 1 - I make MORE money that you do!
Fact Number 2 - I am better than YOU in making money online
Fact Number 3 - I don't go around commenting on each money making blog passing remarks to other commentators saying that "i make money, you dont"

& lastly

Fact Number 4 - Have some manners!

I'm open to comments on this comment :mrgreen:

I'm not sure Mr. Cow wud publish this comment, but still!

Mubin · 2 years ago

You will never be a success in business unless you plan out your exit strategy from the start. EVER single webpage I ever make is with the intention that I will one day sell it, not keep it and let it grow thats for other people to do.

James Wilcox · 2 years ago

Kudos to JC for recognizing that to unlock the potential of any site, time must be spent on marketing, building buzz and traffic and having a quality team behind it to ensure ongoing success.

I think the decision here is a good one because it gives the site over to the community that supports it. Whether or not he made a profit is honestly none of our business. He bought the domain, the hosting, spent money marketing it, gave away two iPods...what more does he have to do? As JC stated, selling it would weed out the people that wouldn't be truly motivated to succeed.

Steven · 2 years ago

I won't say much about what everyone is saying as I know everyone will have their own opinion about what's going on. However I do believe that "shit happens" in life and for better or worse, or for legitimate or lying reasons, whatever the case may be, the site is going to be sold. You may or may not like it, either way, it's not going to change the fact that it's going to be sold.

Realistically it is a tough decision on the Cow and he has try to convey that it wasn't going to be easy on either side. I choose to give him the benefit of the doubt simply because I believe in the type of person he is. Those who don't know him personally will obviously jump to their own conclusions. I may not know him in person, but in the short time I've known him online, he's kept his words so far. That goes with giving away the free iPods, the money he chose to give out, the contests he's honored, the whole nine yards. I firmly believe if it was all about the money, he could have made more elsewhere. Whether you like it or not, you don't need to go bashing on him for what he is doing.

If you feel that the MEW being sold is a bad thing, sell your page to someone else who might want it. Afterall, being one of the first people to get in, you should have gotten prime real estate right? If you were in his shoes, and things happen that you never predicted would occur, what would you do? Try to cut the guy some slack.

PreBlogging · 2 years ago

I love the way people like to think they have the authority to challenge Bob. He did what he thought was best, and given his personal circumstances, he thought he had to get rid of the site. I think he has done this in a very open manner. So kudos to him and I wish the new owners luck.

(not that I will be buying a page in the near future, personally I think it's a bit too risky)

Contest Beat · 2 years ago

Good website flip I guess. The purchase price would be very interesting. I hope the new owners get back their investment as do the current page holders.

Charles Lau · 2 years ago

I just hope the new owner will handle this website well... Else all the marketing efforts will go down the drain... All the best!

Cash Quests · 2 years ago

@The Truth

Those "crappy paid posts" paid more than I think you realize thank you very much. Actually I didn't notice anybody making fun of me (please send me some links to that if they actually exist...) and the site was redirected because PPP was lacking advertisers and it was more profitable to have an entire PR5 site pointing to the new domain.

You make more money than me? Wow...you must be psychic too because I don't publish my online earnings.

It's funny how you didn't like my "better than you tagline". Funny because you're reading my site and I've never even heard of you. I guess the tagline was pretty accurate.

Congratulations on your manners - it's good to see that the poor can still be polite to me...although I do question your rather vulgar language. Have a great day! :smile:

Angel · 2 years ago

FFS.This is going to descend into farce soon. Oh wait, here it is, my double helping of, "STAY ON TOPIC." I don't care how much money any of you make. I am here to read this blog and not to watch some juvenile pissing contest about who has the most pocket change.

Angel · 2 years ago

And the truth is, serious people don't leave anonymous comments.

The Truth · 2 years ago

@cash quests
"because you’re reading my site and I’ve never even heard of you"
What sort of a logic is THAT? Please don't give desperate replies. You get thousand visits per day. Do you know EACH & EVERY person who reads your blog? How do you know them? You didn't even allow comments on your blog for months! You wont be able to count even 100 people who read your blog!!

What were you thinking when making such a statement?

And yes.. you don't publish your online earnings. Is that enough to hide how much you earn? Its so silly of you to say that. One can easily make how out much you earn by -

Number 1 - the number of ad banners you have on your site + the amount you charge for them
Number 2 - the number of paid links you have on your site + the amount you charge for them
Number 3 - the number of paid reviews you have on your site + the amount you charge for them

Any blogger can easily estimate how much money a blog is making. If you don't, then you're not even worth blogging about making money online.

And regarding your "crappy posts" reply, no matter you are making 5$ or 50$ per post, what matters is the fact that they ARE crappy. Nobody's reading that blog, and nobody cares. Infact, the desperation to make money by writing such crappy posts describes how much of a genius you are in making money online!

The Truth · 2 years ago

@angel,
Its definitely not about whos pocketing more money. Maybe you should read both of my comments twice! :mrgreen:

Angel · 2 years ago

The Truth, what about blogs CQ author that you can't see?

OnlineCashFlow · 2 years ago

Great idea. Either this is a great publicity stunt, or a profitable idea. Either way, congrats on the success.

Frank C · 2 years ago

Great flip. You're going to catch up with Shoemoney soon.

When's this site going up for sale? :twisted:

Jorge @ InvestingAdventures · 2 years ago

Good luck with the sale. Personally, I think the spirit of MEW is broken if indeed it is being sold. If I were to have bought a page, part of it would have been because of person (or people) running it. The buzz from the owner would have made the page worthwhile.

Bubs · 2 years ago

The Cow is making the right choice by selling if he can't properly manage the site.

Jorge @ InvestingAdventures · 2 years ago

If he can't manage it, that's really his only option. I can see how some of the initial buyers of a MEW page may be upset though.

Israel · 2 years ago

you guys need to stop arguing and just move one. jeeze.

loredan · 2 years ago

The commander should ALWAYS be the last to leave the ship!
Excuses like "I wasn't able to manage it properly" shouldn't come from a "how to make money" priest.
Cow, do you realize that this sale can affect your blog too?

John Cow · 2 years ago

Loredan:
The commander should ALWAYS see if someone else can do a better job if he recognizes his situation. and who's a "how to make money" priest?

Bubs · 2 years ago

Jorge they might be upset but they can't really be that upset. There is a very good chance that the new owners will do a better job of promoting the site and taking it to the next level. This could be the best thing to happen to the page owners, look at all the buzz that has been generated just from the sale.

Mubin · 2 years ago

This damn million euro wiki is causing all types of bad karma! How much did it sell for dammit?

loredan · 2 years ago

Cow,
I thought this is a "how to make money" blog and with so many workshipers you might be a sort of priest or guru or whatever. Obviously I don't know you that much so I might be wrong. Mea culpa!
"The commander should ALWAYS see if someone else can do a better job if he recognizes his situation" - very much true but I disagree. And you know why? because when it comes to building communities things are much more complicated and most of the time people follow their leader as I'm pretty sure there were people who bought a page just because they liked you more than anything else. I bet those people are dissapointed now. Imagine a battlefield and the commander say just before the battle begins, "Hey guys, I think the general will do better than myself so I quit"
I might be wrong but this is my opinion

Cheers

John Cow · 2 years ago

loredan: This is a parody blog on JohnChow in case you had not noticed, which happens to make money online.
As far as your silly comment about battlefields and Generals. A good commander will quit and let his general take over, if it means that the number of casualties will be significantly less when he does.

And now before you reply again Loredan --think about it and make it a good one please. We'd love to chitchat with you all day but we simply don't have the time.

Money Blue Book · 2 years ago

When management changes, oftentimes there is significant change in the direction of the underlying product. I guess the wiki customers will have to wait and see what happens and whether the pre-existing hype machine will still be there to promote it.

For example: If craigslist were bought out, I'm sure there would be a panic among those accustomed to the free service it offered.

Matt Jones · 2 years ago

The bidding for my page is still going up :) Keep the bids coming!

Steven · 2 years ago

The Jerry Springer of Blogs LOL

Angel · 2 years ago

Talk to the hand.

Cash Quests · 2 years ago

....because the blogosphere isn't listening!

DotDriven · 2 years ago

Nice flip Cow. You didn't cash out as well as Shoemoney did with auctionads but still decent for a month old project lol.

For those that worry, the cow already did all the hard work on the wiki. Now it is just up to promoting which the new owners will obviously do so they can earn their investment back and the page owners will still do for the same reasons. All those still involved have a stake in it and it succeeding. Might not have the same personality attached the same way but still has the roots needed to snowball as much as something like that can.

Cow, just be careful about starting any other projects anytime soon or the trolls will come out of the woodwork asking how you have time for more projects but didn't have time for MEW. The same types of people that don't really know how much work can go into something like that.

Jalaj · 2 years ago

Hey.. who purchased the pages "John Chow" and "Make Money Online" was it John Chow himself?

Mr. Rajawang · 2 years ago

I guess the hard work for the wiki is just starting for the new owner. Just type million euro wiki in google and you will get a lot of the word SCAM in it. That is surely not good for busines! Other than the wiki is not rank on any near the top page of search of its own name.

just my humble opinion.. :)

Mubin · 2 years ago

All those site linking to MEW with the words scam are at the end of the day LINKING to MEW.

Hey how much did it sell for?

Sander · 2 years ago

My account/pages are gone, where to contact the new owner? Not happy about this.

Angel · 2 years ago

I noticed about a dozen pages on MEW that have been reserved for pro bloggers, such as Pro Blogger, Tyler Cruz, Carl Ocab (sp?), and so on. What's the deal?

CatherineL · 2 years ago

I have always thought the set up to be a bit strange from the day it was launched, which is why I didn't get a MEW page.

But who are these the truth@cashquests and cashquests@thetruth who keep bickering? Which one is the real cashquests?

Matt Jones · 2 years ago

My page sold for $90. Broke even + some free buzz exposure from here and Cashquests :) along with a few CashCrate referrals.

Mubin · 2 years ago

So you dont want the 27 Million I offered?

Mr. Rajawang · 2 years ago

Luckily for you Matt Jones, at least you break even!

max · 2 years ago

So how much is MEW did get sold for?

Just give us a range at least....

Mr. Rajawang · 2 years ago

yeah.. We want to know..if possible. :)

Kenneth@Bloggers-Journey.com · 2 years ago

*So you dont want the 27 Million I offered?*

I'll have it then...>"

Kenneth@Bloggers-Journey.com · 2 years ago

Look,, John Chow just mentioned you again.lol..how blessed are you

whydowork · 2 years ago

not such why there is such a frenzy of comments debating and discussing this issue..has no one ever heard of the classic

pump

and

dump

This is one of the clearest online examples in a while. It's a crappy pyramid scheme that will require mammoth efforts to sustain and this piece of veal is wise to get out as soon as possible. :cool:

Ryan Shamus · 2 years ago

I would just like to say thanks to Jon Cow for allowing me to team up, buy, and takeover the MEW project. This is really a big step for me, and I think the $102,000 final bid was well worth the investment....

Kidding!!!!!!!!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Seriously, best of luck Cowman, I'm sure the decision wasn't easy.

Jez · 2 years ago

What an absolute shambles.... but the comments in this post are the funniest thing I've read in days ;-)

Bottom line... its a failed project, even with JC sending you thousands of hits you failed to shift pages, it got ripped up on digital point and on most of the (non affilliate) reviews...

Realizing the game was up you donned your parachute and left someone else to pick up the pieces....

If you thought for a second that this site was gonna "go viral" and bring in 1, 000, 000 euros... personal issues or not you would have made time to keep the site going... or paid someone else to run it for you.... or sold this blog to concentrate on MEW....

John Cow · 2 years ago

Jez: You do realize that your attitude comes across as extremely arrogant with the way you put your thoughts into words?

Bottom line, because YOU feel it's a failed project doesn't mean it is. Who do you think are you anyway?
And who are YOU to tell us we should put our personal situation aside, sell this blog to concentrate on MEW?

Why don't you go get a life of your own. Somewhere else.

PS Don't bother replying because we're done listening to you.

Kenneth@Bloggers-Journey.com · 2 years ago

Well, at least MEW makes a named here. I think it doesn't matter if it is a copycat. We all knew that, but if it is going to be known by many and successful (I think it is). I won't mention it as a "failed project", I'll give it a 5-Star.

One Buck Wiki · 2 years ago

hey, MDW and MEW are great ideas that are still in starting stages.
We've just launched FDW and OBW, and response if immediate and makes more money than any other "new blogs" out there.