OK i actually sat here and read all the comments posted and I can tell you its not for everyone. Entrecard can be great for small blogs but for blogs like Johncow, Shoemoney etc it just doesn't make sense. Imagine the time and effort it takes to check in and review each advert for Shoemoney when he can easily be building another site like fighter.com . So don't shit on bloggers that choose to remove something that doesn't work for them on their OWN blog. Its not like hes telling you to drop it now is he? He's just letting you know he is and giving you HIS reasons I'm sure everyone can make their own decisions right?. simple. So relax and go about chain dropping your cards. I'm sure that will be more effective than writing great content :evil:
Chris Guthrie
· 1 year ago
I like some of the points you made and just recently posted on my blog some tips on how to make the most of your EntreCard credits that many of you might be interested.
I can see both sides of this argument. I've seen benefits from using Entrecard, but mostly due to an increased Alexa rank. I realize that the improved rank is because of many ads I placed all over the blogosphere. I think some blogs are overpriced and underpriced in the world of Entrecard though. My best day in terms of traffic from an ad placement came from none other than Problogger, so it goes to show that the bigger the blog, the more hits you get.
To argue for Saphrym's blog, his blog may be climbing in popularity, so getting in at 400 credits may be a good investment to some. As Graham said though, people should carefully consider the blog they advertise on with Entrecard, and consider if the credits are worth it.
But I also believe in using Entrecard for other aspects. I've seen the new shop, which offers some pretty interesting items for credits. People now can get hosting or blog designs without spending money or entering a contest. It's all how you want to use it I guess. Nonetheless, it still has done more for most people's blogs than Blogrush has :)
Usman Money
· 1 year ago
They should limit the amount of time. Like make there sytem to check how long the use has been on the site. As all the dip shits do is go to your blog click drop card and see ya. That is the only reason you see n00b ass blogs advertising on top bloggers.
Suzanne
· 1 year ago
Well, we all start somewhere and get traffic as we can. Some copy the style and name of big A-list blogs to get fame and fortune and some drop Entrecards. Get over it.
DwayneLattimore.com
· 1 year ago
This is very true.....to be honest, I've been saving up to get on the best blogs so that I can get more traffic.......that was something that I was already figuring out early on. They're all good while they last right? Lol! :razz:
vorax
· 1 year ago
very intresseting but i can drop my entrecard ? no !? i 'll come later :mrgreen:
BonoRiau
· 1 year ago
is this really effective
@JoeHobot
· 1 year ago
Nice one JC , but I think that traffic is well worth to get exposed to other bloggers, I mean since I use this system I met so much more bloggers and talk to them and comment on their blogs like never before.
You are right about waisting the time. :grin:
pkenjora
· 1 year ago
EntreCard is growing quickly but I’m worried it will burn itself out unless Graham manages to monetize the traffic for bloggers. Its biggest hurdle is that the traffic generated is other bloggers trying to drop cards. This is the modern form of spamming.
In the sense that it generates traffic EntreCard works, no doubt there (at least initially). As far as being of value in terms of users and bloggers alike, I’m very skeptical.
Personally I’m a bigger fan of content linking. It brings better users increasing CTR as well as traffic. Remember 1% increase in CTR is worth hundreds of users. Link your blog with similar pages (the core of Arkayne) and you’ll get better page rank and CTR.
EntreCard's a good idea, but the implementation lacks: the widget's ugly.
...Off to some real feedback, I think they should explain what EntreCards really are (instead of leaving us with some 5-minute long video who nobody wants to watch to the end). Their website looks dull too, and as this post points out, there's some major flaws in their concept.
Steve
· 1 year ago
Wow, looks like your alexa has freakin TANKED since you dropped Entrecard you freakin idiot
-Paul
· 1 year ago
And his subscribers has grown by around 200..... not quite sure what you are trying to say Steve.. subscribers up...alexa down.... lets see the $$ report before we start throwing names around..Mr Steve who won't leve a link to his site... maybe a blogspot eh...with 1 subscriber..hehehe
gasmoney
· 1 year ago
E card has its pros as well as it cons. All you have to do is identify that with your own blog and forget what others think or say. do your own homework with stuff , cause if you don't then you definitely are in the wrong niche.
i just thought i'd give my 2 cents. I started my blog just over a week ago, and at the time I had only a few (3-4?) subscribers on my rss feed. After putting up entrecard i now have close to 40 subscribers in less than 2 weeks. So I think it has been more than worth it for me.
nick
· 1 year ago
so far so good; as my 1 month old blog (also my first one) is almost cracking the top 100,000! I know it averages past 3 months but if you look at past weeks ave. then i am at 106,000 and the only network, group or whatever I use or ever used is entrecard and really not was to serious w/ it until 2 weeks ago. I am already getting 250 uniques/day, have a technorati authority of over 240 giving that silly figured blog value of $136,000; I have over 50 subscribers and ready... just started to offer a lifetime membership to a site that is not yet launched at $100/pop and I am getting people to buy-in!!!!! take a look it is tallied using chip-in- i also am going to crack the 100,000 top site mark within 5 weeks of starting this blog and not paid one cent to advertise, no blogroll, etc... just entrecard! my rank on feed the bull for top stock sites is at 11th (for the first week that it has been listed) o yeah technorati rank 22,000, member of that site for a whole 2.5 weeks!! See what you guys think of the numbers? www.platinumpicks.blogspot.com ~~ by the way... if interested , i am still offering a lifetime ad link on top of this blog along w/ a lifetime membership to my pay stock site $100 see my 90%+ accuracy! Mr. Chow I know you are laughing at these numbers but I am knew to this and read your posts frequently, I am just letting others know the success that I have found so far using this system even though I am sure there are others that may be less effort, as of now this is working for me. Thankyou for letting this comment to be published on your site. Your returning reader, NicksPicks - Platinumpicks.blogspot
nick
· 1 year ago
by traffic rank above, i am sorry, I was referring to Alexa traffic ranks :roll:
nick
· 1 year ago
one more thing, entrecard, as it seems like a pain, the window stays open as u move to the next, so the time visited should be longer than a sec or 2. right??
gasmoney
· 1 year ago
like i said its not for everyone.
apple pie recipe
· 1 year ago
Its kinda funny how Saphrym is exploiting his daughter to get more card drops. Her blog doesn't accept adverts and yet it is always on the "Lowest Wait" section because of it. EntreCrap won't stop it either. Poor management in my opinion.
evilwoobie
· 1 year ago
@ apple pie recipe
Please DEFINE "exploitation".... How dare you. A dad wants to share the fun he's having at his online social network and you call that exploitation?
Saphrym happens to be a funny guy who parodies people's quirks. THAT's why he's famous.
And to even call him as a child exploiter should reflect just how nauseating your world must be.
Graham Langdon
· 1 year ago
Big announcement coming in the next two weeks...
Entrecard is going to start making money for its members. Soon, all those chaindroppers will be making you REAL money. Not only will Entrecard continue to bring you steady traffic, boost your Alexa, your subscribers, and your comments, but it will make you MONEY.
Stay tuned... you won't want to miss this!
Michael Aulia
· 1 year ago
Man..such a long comments post :roll:
JohnShoe.com
· 1 year ago
EC is still a good way for a new blog to get some free traffic.
Steve
seocontest2008
· 1 year ago
I'm glad i came acoss this! I thought i was the only one experiencing large amounts of bounce rates but it seems not. The only possible & seeable way forward i believe is creating a certain 10-30 second time delay before users can click the EC widget to another blog.
modemlooper
· 1 year ago
I have entre card and its more of a pain in the butt than anything else. I can't justify all the time spent dropping cards. Its the equivalent of begging for change. The blogrush scam is just as bad. The ideas are great but they really do not drive traffic to blogs. I get more hits from one bulletin on myspace.
Jeff Millman
· 1 year ago
I think one of the benefits of EntreCard is to quickly find a bunch of other websites that are "traffic-minded" and are looking for ways to build traffic. I can quickly find some amazing tips to build traffic by reading fantastic posts and also network, and get credits for my own marketing purposes.
bluejay
· 1 year ago
I've started using EntreCard over the past week or so and I've seen the nice bump. But after reading your post I've checked the bounce rate and your right, it is very very high. I'll probably keep the widget up just for some of the technorati traffic but I'll lay back on submitting in the future.
Matt L
· 1 year ago
Perhaps the bloggers should set their own EC prices. This way, prices can't be artificially inflated and people still can get free (non-money) advertising on blogs.
Also, for big blogs, putting up entrecard can hurt their advertising prices. If my EC is 100, but normal 125x125 spots are $85, I will stop making cash....
Well, looks like I'm late to the party - as always. Without actually offering much new to the discussion, I think we all have to admit to Entrecard is not for everyone. I have a love/hate relationship with it myself for many of the reasons listed above. However, at the end of the day I have found a number of great websites that I likely would not have without it and made a number of friends. It truly is its own little world in there and the key is to remember is that it is only a microcosm of a bigger one. I respect anyone's decision to leave of course, but I do believe that having larger blogs participate would be beneficial to all parties. At the end of the day, the system indeed favours though who have a LOT of time to devote to it - the key here is not to care. If you can win friends and influence people by sacrificing a 125x125 square on your site. Well, the decision of course is an individual one ... cheers!
Diane Scott
· 1 year ago
Personally I like the system and think Entrecard works very well. Like anything and everything "marketing" online, there are many that ruin the experience (sometimes for everyone). I like to open several, give them all several minutes of "just sitting there" time, and then go one by one visiting each to see if there is something I'd like to add my two cents to... And I find maybe too many opps to do this...
For instance - you wonder if the system is blown and not worth the effort. Well just BECAUSE you wrote about Entrecard, I've been here at least 10 minutes or more reading your post and various and sundry comments left by others.
No one can make anyone do anything. If you don't like the system, it's your blog. However, we do like it and are meeting some really interesting bloggers using Entrecard :)
EC is a great system if you recognize it for what it is. A Tool. Plain and simple.
If you use it with Alexa's sparky or some other similar form of ranking before dropping mad credits you can get some amazing results. For example JohnChow's EC is only 192 ec. WOW!
Warm geeky regards,
Karl "TheAdmiN" Gechlik :mrgreen:
Karl L. Gechlik | AskTheAdmin.com's last blog post..Dropbox Review
Felex Tan
· 1 year ago
I absolutely agree,a lot of EC users have high credits bu low traffics,on the other hand i noticed that some EC user although they have low credits,but the traffics are constant because 1)Loyalty RSS readers 2)Quality content 3)High rank .They have low credits is just because of they are not active in EC not because of the crap contents or whatsoever.
Now that's a full blown discussion! I'll use it for a minute, but like Cow, if at the end of the day it doesn't add value to the blog I'll find another traffic solution.
Hi, what you said is absolutely correct. If entrecard is used in a good way then every one is going to get benifited. But on the other hand those who are more keen on dropping rather than reading content will get benifited coz while dropping if the banner is attractive then that site is going to get good visitors.
Anyway though using entrecard on our blogs , It is not mingled with our blog but it stands away and its work is only worth for entrecard users. My bouce rate has also increased and I knew it was because of this Entrecard.
nithin's last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/OnlineEarningOpportunities/~3/267876386/socialsparkcom-i-am-invited-for-alpha.html" rel="nofollow">Socialspark.com - I Am Invited For Alpha Testing
SEOBloggers.NET
· 1 year ago
Will take a look at entrecard now....I have heard a lot about it but never really followed it up.
I'm new into entrecard and i think it's a nice way for newbies to get noticed (at least a little bit). The future will show ec's value for me. Thank your for this controversial post and the discussion.
Granted by this post Entrecard has changed the system (I love how you can maintain all websites from one login!), but I wanted to read down to get the general feel for "do you love it, like it, or hate it." Personally, I enjoy using Entrecard, but I also do not just drop and run. I figure if I'm going to take the time to visit, I will do my best to find something to say somewhere - commenting is key.
Also, in reading this caught my eye: "And keep in mind that your homepage has five full posts on it. There isn’t much of a reason for 75% of the traffic to visit another page when they can read your five latest posts from the landing page, unless they’re searching for something specific or are interested in advertising."
I do believe I will try decrease the number we have on our front page, it may be a tad high LOL!
I think Iam agree with Eerik ;".. Entrecard is only good for getting a higher CPC in adsense..". Most entrecard member visit other blog just for click drop button and go.. :mrgreen:
I read about this on another blog and was curious so I did a search on entrecards and your blog came up. I am glad that you posted this but their blog contridicts what you said. Their post says that it helps any type of blog big or small and that it really works. I am going to give it a shot since my blog is a small one but I am only going to do it as a test run. Entrecards kind of sounds like a lot of work when you could be getting a bunch of traffic elsewhere for little work.
There are so many things going on around the Entrecardosphere that I really will not wnt killing myself over. I really wish there was a way I could avaoid Entrecard. Maybe I will, when my blog gets bigger.
For now, there are only two things about EC that i really care about
1 - Drop as many cards as possible 2 - Spend credits wisely
Wow this was from a long time ago, so I guess they changed their mind about Entrecard. For us it works great. Its dropped our RR but Alexa is a little slower, but every bit helps. But using it as a tool, mixed with getting ours (and our former customers) ranking high in Google, it serves its purpose.
A lot of times things don't work. A lot of times people don't know how to use a variety of tools. This could be a mix of both- a little.
For a while, I was one of those sites which was in the top three in my category. But, I was not a money making site. About three weeks ago, I could not log into Entrecard from home. I could log in everywhere else but not from my home computer. I tried for several weeks for tech support to help me. Every suggestion they made was very simplistic and did not truly address the issue, so I have been effectively locked out of entrecard. I am still getting a decent amount of traffic from them, but it is slowly declining.
I have decided because of the technical support issues I will try and find something else to generate traffic. Also, it takes a lot of time and clicking to maintain an entrecard presence. I think if I can figure out how to use Digg, or a few other high end social sites, I might be able to get the same amount of traffic without the time investment.
I had problems before. I think they want to make money and often discriminate against sites that are not about making money. A lot of the site categories like photography, arts (there are a lot of etsy stores), web comics are not hugely focused on making a lot of cash.
This analysis is right on the money. I write for an independent political blog (killerbuffalo.com) and have experimented in various ways to get more readers. The first thing I came upon was blogexplosion.com. If anyone knows how it works, it's similar to EntreCard: you mindlessly browse random blogs on the internet to get credits that so that other people will mindlessly browse your blog to get credits for themselves. Ultimately, there's a huge productivity gap; everyone is working for no reward. We'll see if EntreCard can change the system to one that tracks unique views of sites and exchanges banners on that basis. If it doesn't, I may be out too.
93civEJ1
· 1 year ago
I can see how EC would just cause blog inflation in just one community. I think it would be more wise to generate traffic outside of one community as well. BUT, for the time being with just starting out as a blog newbie, I am dropping my "business card" but at a slow rate. I kinda think its retarded honestly. :shock:
DnDCorner
· 1 year ago
My experience with Entrecard has been positive. Of course the vast majority of the traffic will simply bounce through, but a small percentage of people will stop and comment. Some will just stop and look.
It is definitely not for everyone. I do recommend it for new blogs, and for people looking for ideas about blogging and building blogs.
One thing I notice is that a lot of bloggers don't really get outside of themselves much. They get into their routine and don't move beyond it. Entrecard, by its nature makes you see more of the blogosphere, which overall I think has a positive effect.
I'm not refuting the inflated bounce rate, or the inflated pricing structure for advertising. It is simple common sense that one must take a look at the cost of advertising.
Excellent post, and thanks.
Gina
· 12 months ago
Hmm. I almost considered joining entrecard, but the process seemed to complex for me. I mean, it can't be hard to drop cards, but that's what I feared, you could get carried away with it. Then all it would be about is dropping cards.
I prefer a free approach. If people want to read what's on your blog they stay. If they don't, they leave.
jackst
· 11 months ago
This is well said and observed in many members dropping e-cards. They are just dropping cards without being interested to your blog and posts. They are only good for newbies and new blogs starting to get traffic.
Las Vegas Lawyer
· 9 months ago
Well I'm much wiser for having read this. I just now stumbled upon entrecard. this is the 2nd post I've read up on it and it was negative. Maybe if it were different and concentrated on generating real traffic, it would not be a zero sum game. [I win you lose] But, I guess to do that, would mean the founder would have to actively work at generating traffic for his site, instead of setting something up that noobs would jump in and swim around in the cess pool and think it's gravy.
*sigh*
mechape
· 8 months ago
Today you need much more credits to advertise on popular blogs within EC community. No doubt they are inflated beyond resonable. But there is a new moment in the story of EC : it is becoming real ad network for advertisers outside of that small circle.
It is not clear still how the things will turn out. Will this system mutually benefited for both parties or may be just for the people behind the project. Time will tell, but clearly it is a significant change for the whole EC economy
All Comments
http://www.chrisguthrie.net/make-the-most-of-yo...
But yah, EntreCard please get rid of the effect dropping your card has on your advertising price.
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t...
To argue for Saphrym's blog, his blog may be climbing in popularity, so getting in at 400 credits may be a good investment to some. As Graham said though, people should carefully consider the blog they advertise on with Entrecard, and consider if the credits are worth it.
But I also believe in using Entrecard for other aspects. I've seen the new shop, which offers some pretty interesting items for credits. People now can get hosting or blog designs without spending money or entering a contest. It's all how you want to use it I guess. Nonetheless, it still has done more for most people's blogs than Blogrush has :)
As all the dip shits do is go to your blog click drop card and see ya.
That is the only reason you see n00b ass blogs advertising on top bloggers.
no !?
i 'll come later :mrgreen:
You are right about waisting the time. :grin:
In the sense that it generates traffic EntreCard works, no doubt there (at least initially). As far as being of value in terms of users and bloggers alike, I’m very skeptical.
Personally I’m a bigger fan of content linking. It brings better users increasing CTR as well as traffic. Remember 1% increase in CTR is worth hundreds of users. Link your blog with similar pages (the core of Arkayne) and you’ll get better page rank and CTR.
For The Curious: Arkayne.com
...Off to some real feedback, I think they should explain what EntreCards really are (instead of leaving us with some 5-minute long video who nobody wants to watch to the end). Their website looks dull too, and as this post points out, there's some major flaws in their concept.
I am already getting 250 uniques/day, have a technorati authority of over 240 giving that silly figured blog value of $136,000; I have over 50 subscribers and ready... just started to offer a lifetime membership to a site that is not yet launched at $100/pop and I am getting people to buy-in!!!!! take a look it is tallied using chip-in- i also am going to crack the 100,000 top site mark within 5 weeks of starting this blog and not paid one cent to advertise, no blogroll, etc... just entrecard! my rank on feed the bull for top stock sites is at 11th (for the first week that it has been listed) o yeah technorati rank 22,000, member of that site for a whole 2.5 weeks!! See what you guys think of the numbers?
www.platinumpicks.blogspot.com
~~ by the way... if interested , i am still offering a lifetime ad link on top of this blog along w/ a lifetime membership to my pay stock site $100 see my 90%+ accuracy!
Mr. Chow I know you are laughing at these numbers but I am knew to this and read your posts frequently, I am just letting others know the success that I have found so far using this system even though I am sure there are others that may be less effort, as of now this is working for me. Thankyou for letting this comment to be published on your site. Your returning reader,
NicksPicks - Platinumpicks.blogspot
:roll:
Please DEFINE "exploitation"....
How dare you. A dad wants to share the fun he's having at his online social network and you call that exploitation?
Saphrym happens to be a funny guy who parodies people's quirks. THAT's why he's famous.
And to even call him as a child exploiter should reflect just how nauseating your world must be.
Entrecard is going to start making money for its members. Soon, all those chaindroppers will be making you REAL money. Not only will Entrecard continue to bring you steady traffic, boost your Alexa, your subscribers, and your comments, but it will make you MONEY.
Stay tuned... you won't want to miss this!
Steve
Also, for big blogs, putting up entrecard can hurt their advertising prices. If my EC is 100, but normal 125x125 spots are $85, I will stop making cash....
Just an idea, don't know much about EC though.
natespost's last blog post..Entrecard Scam - Mongo Credits
Last droppers widget
Christian's last blog post..Entrelist - Entrecard last droppers widget
Without actually offering much new to the discussion, I think we all have to admit to Entrecard is not for everyone. I have a love/hate relationship with it myself for many of the reasons listed above. However, at the end of the day I have found a number of great websites that I likely would not have without it and made a number of friends. It truly is its own little world in there and the key is to remember is that it is only a microcosm of a bigger one. I respect anyone's decision to leave of course, but I do believe that having larger blogs participate would be beneficial to all parties. At the end of the day, the system indeed favours though who have a LOT of time to devote to it - the key here is not to care. If you can win friends and influence people by sacrificing a 125x125 square on your site. Well, the decision of course is an individual one ... cheers!
For instance - you wonder if the system is blown and not worth the effort. Well just BECAUSE you wrote about Entrecard, I've been here at least 10 minutes or more reading your post and various and sundry comments left by others.
No one can make anyone do anything. If you don't like the system, it's your blog. However, we do like it and are meeting some really interesting bloggers using Entrecard :)
Diane Scott's last blog post..A Strange Thing Happened on the Way to the Giveaway
If you use it with Alexa's sparky or some other similar form of ranking before dropping mad credits you can get some amazing results. For example JohnChow's EC is only 192 ec. WOW!
Warm geeky regards,
Karl "TheAdmiN" Gechlik :mrgreen:
Karl L. Gechlik | AskTheAdmin.com's last blog post..Dropbox Review
Felex Tan's last blog post..Surf with U Mobile?
Dave from Welcome Back Rosenthal's last blog post..Martin Luther King Jr. James Brown and Vh1?
Anyway though using entrecard on our blogs , It is not mingled with our blog but it stands away and its work is only worth for entrecard users. My bouce rate has also increased and I knew it was because of this Entrecard.
nithin's last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/OnlineEarningOpportunities/~3/267876386/socialsparkcom-i-am-invited-for-alpha.html" rel="nofollow">Socialspark.com - I Am Invited For Alpha Testing
SEOBloggers.NET's last blog post..Search Engine Optimization Tips for Google
LogBlog's last blog post..Maddy’s crazy zone
Chris's last blog post..Home Schooling Is The Death Of Public Education
PS: dont you think adbrite ads are killing your website??
you dont need them do you ?
Nishus last blog post..An Interview with Alan Johnson (theratingblog.com)
I would view that as positive.
mxyzplks last blog post..Secrets of Selling...
Also, in reading this caught my eye: "And keep in mind that your homepage has five full posts on it. There isn’t much of a reason for 75% of the traffic to visit another page when they can read your five latest posts from the landing page, unless they’re searching for something specific or are interested in advertising."
I do believe I will try decrease the number we have on our front page, it may be a tad high LOL!
Oh, and I came via Entrecard :)
Dianes last blog post..Why You Should Start A Blog or How to Increase Website Visitors Without Really Trying
spartaxs last blog post..30-day trial version software creator
I think now the visitors of your blog will stay for few minutes not only post their views as comments but also reduce your bounce rate...
Mr.Make Money Onlines last blog post..How to get Free .Edu and .Gov Backlinks?
Gaje Masters last blog post..Sponsor a Blog Contest and Win
For now, there are only two things about EC that i really care about
1 - Drop as many cards as possible
2 - Spend credits wisely
AZ Bloggings last blog post..Are You Worth Their Time?
mommys last blog post..Vaccines and your newborn
A lot of times things don't work. A lot of times people don't know how to use a variety of tools. This could be a mix of both- a little.
Tonys last blog post..Web Hosting
I have decided because of the technical support issues I will try and find something else to generate traffic. Also, it takes a lot of time and clicking to maintain an entrecard presence. I think if I can figure out how to use Digg, or a few other high end social sites, I might be able to get the same amount of traffic without the time investment.
I had problems before. I think they want to make money and often discriminate against sites that are not about making money. A lot of the site categories like photography, arts (there are a lot of etsy stores), web comics are not hugely focused on making a lot of cash.
Book Calendars last blog post..Sly Mongoose-- Tobias Buckell-- Review
It is definitely not for everyone. I do recommend it for new blogs, and for people looking for ideas about blogging and building blogs.
One thing I notice is that a lot of bloggers don't really get outside of themselves much. They get into their routine and don't move beyond it. Entrecard, by its nature makes you see more of the blogosphere, which overall I think has a positive effect.
I'm not refuting the inflated bounce rate, or the inflated pricing structure for advertising. It is simple common sense that one must take a look at the cost of advertising.
Excellent post, and thanks.
I prefer a free approach. If people want to read what's on your blog they stay. If they don't, they leave.
*sigh*
It is not clear still how the things will turn out. Will this system mutually benefited for both parties or may be just for the people behind the project.
Time will tell, but clearly it is a significant change for the whole EC economy